Discussion thread: Project Hosting Ending July 8

Today we announced that we’ll be sunsetting project hosting on July 8, 2025. (Here is the full announcement on the blog). This is of course, a huge change for the community, so I want to create a space for you all to share your thoughts, concerns, or ask questions.

A few important notes:

  • Your Glitch dashboard will be available through the end of 2025 with code downloads for all of your projects
  • In the coming days, your dashboard will get a new feature to set up redirects for your project subdomains, so all your links will keep working. Make sure your redirects are set up before December 31, 2025. (We’ll make sure they stay active at least through the end of 2026.)
  • We’re preparing a guide to help you export your project, create git repos, and migrate your projects to new platforms that will be available soon. In the meantime, we’re creating a separate thread today to help answer any migration questions or tips, etc.
  • We’ll turn off new Glitch Pro subscriptions effective immediately. All current Glitch Pro subscriptions will be honored until July 8, and we’ll issue refunds for unused time. We’ll send a separate email to Glitch Pro subscribers with additional details on your membership by June 2, 2025.

On a personal note, I’m truly grateful for each and every one of you who joined us in creating the type of web we want to see in the world. As curator for Glitch content the past few years, I’ve had a front row seat to your curiosity, creativity, humor, passion, frustration, and helpfulness. The work you’ve created has delighted, challenged, and changed me and the way I think about the web and the people who inspire it. Thank you for being here and sharing yourself with Glitch.

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Just got this email

We’ve got an important update for the Glitch community today: We’ll be ending web hosting for your apps on Glitch. In this message, we’ll explain what that means for you and for the Glitch community.

On July 8, 2025 Glitch project hosting and user profiles will be shut down. Your Glitch dashboard will remain available as usual through the end of 2025, with access to download all of your code for your projects, as well as a new feature to set up redirects for your project subdomains so your URLs keep working.

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congrats on operating 9 years

and thanks for the generosity and development convenience you’ve given us

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here’s the whole email

We’ve got an important update for the Glitch community today: We’ll be ending web hosting for your apps on Glitch. In this message, we’ll explain what that means for you and for the Glitch community.

On July 8, 2025 Glitch project hosting and user profiles will be shut down. Your Glitch dashboard will remain available as usual through the end of 2025, with access to download all of your code for your projects, as well as a new feature to set up redirects for your project subdomains so your URLs keep working.

There are a couple of reasons we’re making this decision right now. It takes a lot of time and money to run millions of apps, and that has greatly increased as the platform has gotten older and bad actors try to misuse the platform. But while that is true, there’s also another motivation that made it clear that it’s time for a bigger change.

In the last few years, we’ve seen a lot of amazing new platforms that have raised the bar on how we create and run apps, just as Glitch first did almost a decade ago. Some of the teams behind these new platforms have even told us they were inspired by Glitch. ❤️ We love what we built with our teammates with Fastly Compute and tools like Fastly Fiddle, of course, but there’s also the broader ecosystem, with platforms like Fly.io, Deno, GitHub Pages, Val Town, Netlify, Digital Ocean, and so many more that are still inspiring us to create. Last year, we built the ability for paid Glitch members to share their own apps that they built elsewhere on their Glitch profiles, and we’ll be exploring how we might be able to revisit those kinds of ideas with the Glitch community going forward. So with so many good options for easily making and running apps, Glitch’s legacy architecture hasn’t been providing something uniquely valuable to the developer ecosystem at this point, and we want to focus our efforts on serving our developer community where we can be most valuable.

Right now, our number one job is to take care of everyone in the Glitch community during this big change. Here’s what we’re doing first:

  • Your Glitch dashboard will be available through the end of 2025 with code downloads for all of your projects
  • In the coming days, your dashboard will get a new feature to set up redirects for your project subdomains, so all your links will keep working. Make sure your redirects are set up before December 31, 2025. (We’ll make sure they stay active at least through the end of 2026.)
  • We’re working on preparing a guide to help you export your project, create git repos, and migrate your projects to new platforms. And we expect to update the guide as our friends at other platforms make it easy to move your projects over to their sites. Until then, please join us in the Community Forum to ask questions and get tips on migrating.
  • We’ll turn off new Glitch Pro subscriptions effective immediately. All current Glitch Pro subscriptions will be honored until July 8, and we’ll issue refunds for unused time. We’ll send a separate email to Glitch Pro subscribers with additional details on your membership by June 2, 2025.

This is obviously a big change for Glitch, and for the Glitch community. I know that personally, it’s a bittersweet transition, and any time we ask people to make an unexpected change with their apps, it can cause stress or frustration. I’m sorry for the time and effort that it takes to migrate or back up your apps if you weren’t planning on it, but I am also grateful for all the kind and supportive words from the community who’ve seen the challenges we’ve had in maintaining a large community of millions of users running tens of millions of apps.

We’ll keep updating you on progress towards these dates, and as always, you can join us in the community forum to share your thoughts or feedback and we’ll be watching closely. You can also personally reach out to me at [email protected].

Thank you for being part of the Glitch community.

Anil Dash

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sad times. 6 weeks isn’t really much time to migrate a load of apps

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I don’t understand. Why are you saying you’re “sunsetting project hosting”? Glitch IS project hosting (plus a couple of features that only make sense with project hosting). So you’re sunsetting Glitch. Whay can’t you say that? I had to read an email, then read a blogpost, then come here to finally figure out that it’s not me who didn’t understand what you mean and where you’re going with this. It’s you deliberatly being vague. What the hell?

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In kinder words, I agree with @valerypopoff. I appreciate everything Glitch has done and appreciate the community that has formed around it, but this announcement is way too vague. The title makes it seem as though Glitch will continue on in some way, but with no details, while the announcement itself reads as though Glitch is shutting down entirely, because what is Glitch if not app hosting and user profiles? This announcement really needs to be clarified and updated.

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:saluting_face:

Thanks so much for building Glitch – it was a huge factor in me learning to code and I genuinely do appreciate it :slight_smile:

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Just wanted to say that… I discovered Glitch yesterday.
After a full night messing around, I FINALLY managed to build something I’d been trying to figure out for months… (I’m not a dev, just a guy with vague ideas and a lot of help from chatgpt)

AND THEN TODAY YOU ANNOUNCE YOU’RE SHUTTING IT DOWN?

Even my GPT is upset. Timing is perfect. Love it. :sweat_smile:

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Sad news, thanks a lot for makin it so easy and smooth. Does any one knows alternatives as userfriendly as glitch?

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some of us are sharing our migration plans in this separate thread! Project migration discussion

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I’ve been using Glitch for over five years now to teach design students how to create code for the web. Compared to Adobe, Glitch was an absolute dream. Does anyone have any recommendations for a service that compares to what Glitch offers? The only good thing I can say is that I’m glad I have all summer to figure this out.

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I really liked Glitch and I’ve been using it all the way back to its days as Thimble where I started to learn Web Dev and have seen it grown into the huge community it is.

Please don’t shut down Glitch, though. If possible, maybe you could all try to build it into something better. But please don’t make it permanent. Even if it’s just something temporary while you all sort whatever needs to be sort out that’s fine, but Glitch is such an important stepping stone in anyone learning how to code or wanting to make their own websites.

I’m sure there’s a lot of great memories everyone has here, and I’m sure maybe you have some too.

At least let’s all try and see if we could keep it going.
And if it’s money you all need maybe try reaching out to one of the guys at the other places you know. Maybe they might be of some help I’m not sure :cry::sob:

But I’m sure even a Kickstarter to making a Glitch 2.0 or something might get some traction too because we all love this platform and have great memories which is as analogous it can get to Scratch. It’s like if you suddenly heard one day that Scratch would shut down. It’s not a good feeling at all.

At least make a backup of what we all have in case you all change your mind or something… Just don’t wipe us out completely :cry:

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cant we just make hosting cost money or something :broken_heart:

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let suspended users to download project if this is end let us move

mother of earth, give me the strength not to say something out of pocket in response to this ^

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all my projects from 2019 in glitch, i don’t have backup or any,
i want to download some projects only and check it before let meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
that all what i ask some projects worked in it for years in glitch and now beacuse suspended i’m not able to download it

#Hugops to the whole team. Thank you for making Glitch amazing for these last many years; it has been a really wholesome and positive thing in my life.

I want to recognise that there’s no real villain here; Glitch was (as I understand it) running out of runway before the Fastly acquisition, and the shutdown is a sad fact of no-one having the investment to make Glitch into a profitable and best-in-field solution. Nice job trying!

The short cutoff for app hosting stings a little, but oh well.

I have a question about CDN. What’s the fate of assets and links stored on the Glitch/Fastly CDN?

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Nothing lasts forever and while this is unfortunate news, now is the time be grateful for all that the Glitch.com platform has made possible. The community and the platform were peerless in their awesomeness.

Glitch.com was a breath of fresh air, and it was a complete game changer for mentoring, education, and sharing code with my students and peers.

Thank you for everything, Glitch Crew! :carp_streamer:

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ooh that’s a great question! i assume that because we’ll be able to download projects through end of year that this would be the case for assets too, but confirmation on that would be greatly appreciated!

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Can we also talk about Glitch API responses. When will those end, and will there be any option to receive a final archive of your User API response? (e.g. https://api.glitch.com/users/1433977)

[yes I have downloaded it myself today, but I just wanna put this out there as a dependency]

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after lots of hard work on my website, this pops up, WHY.

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Guys, Cloud Run its an easy cheap option.

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:saluting_face: Thank you for providing such a wonderful service for so many years. You played a big role in helping me learn new things. I’m truly grateful for everything. Farewell.

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I’ve been a huge fan since the very beginning. Very sad news, but I am grateful for everything as well, and wishing the team all the best!

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I’m not a fan of those overly sweet, corporate-style messages that try to sugarcoat the truth: Glitch was simply too good to last, and you’re losing money. Your project was admirable—and in many ways, a turning point for the internet, and for that reason, this isn’t just your loss or ours. It’s a loss for the world.

That said, my only real complaint is this: if you knew the situation wasn’t financially sustainable, you could have at least announced it a year in advance—not overnight.

In the end, it’s not your company or the users who lose the most. It’s the internet itself, which becomes a little more rigid, a little more grey.

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What happens to projects that aren’t downloaded?

Are you talking to archive.org to make sure everything is saved?

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I second @davidcelis. I had understood Glitch as an organization that prided itself on candor and clarity in communications with its users, and this falls short; “Important Changes are Coming to Glitch” as the blog post title is risible.

And it’s eyebrow-raising, at least, to read:

… This is a big change, but it’s not an “Our Incredible Journey” post about how our corporate overlords made us shut down the app hosting infrastructure for Glitch. It’s a story about recognizing when an ecosystem has changed, and evolving to reflect reality, and to respect our users and community by making the right choices when it’s time…

I’m not impressed by the attempt to claim that the “Our Incredible Journey” trope doesn’t apply; I think perhaps the users might have more of a say there.

Was there any consultation with people in the userbase before the shutdown decision, or before finalizing plans for tools and timelines to support exports and migration?

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can we have a clear and definitive answer, is glitch permanently shutting down, or are there plans to change it to something else?

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Project hosting and user profiles are shutting down, but the announcement says:

Last year, we built the ability for paid Glitch members to share their own apps that they built elsewhere on their Glitch profiles, and we’ll be exploring how we might be able to revisit those kinds of ideas with the Glitch community going forward.

On Mastodon, Dash wrote:

We’re thinking through what’s next. I’m really interested in how we can look at all the other amazing creation and app experiences out there (I really love stuff like Val Town and Fly.io and Deno and Netlify, etc.) and bring all those together for easily making and remixing new apps. Will take a bit to figure that out.

So the implication is that Glitch, going forward, will be a way to share and discover web apps for remixing, but Glitch won’t provide hosting.

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The end of Fastly hosting Glitch is a great opportunity to open source any infrastructure or other proprietary Glitch software you hadn’t previously released! What subset of Glitch’s project hosting software will you be releasing under an open source license?

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This is very sad to see but not surprising. Glitch was such a valuable tool, even just in the collaborative aspect. Would love if you guys got things sorted with archive.org or even a torrent for public projects (the latter would be very cool).

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Someone sold out to someone and you don’t need to ask questions. The shark ate the little fish.

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Oh boy, I remember the times i somewhat make an glitch uptimer (which somehow violate their ToS back before the existence of project hours), And then proceed making random small things (like a 4chan inspired site, and something similar to invidious) and deploy it to glitch.com. These were the golden ages.

As a sysadmin perspective, Making a big change on the current glitch infra means sacrificing the existing instance so i could pretty much tell how is this happening.

Well, It has been a great journey to make random things here, Folks!

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I never got the email, and I wish I hadn’t seen this either cause :broken_heart: :broken_heart:

Glitch was my childhood (probably not the right thing to be doing as a kid, instead of going out and making friends) and seeing it shutdown is like when your parents take away that one teddy bear for washing and you never see it again. It hurts, but eventually you accept the pain and move onto other teddy bears. Jokes aside, it takes a lot of courage to admit that things aren’t working and end on a pleasant note, before the experience gets terrible for users and Glitch doesn’t have a unique reputation anymore.

Thank you for all the jams, apps (RIP Heardles), Twitch streams, and fun stuff. Glitch was a very useful tool for education, especially for classrooms and workshops (and now I’ll have to find an alternative). I hope Glitch bounces back with something better, maybe it was all about the friends we made along the way.

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Guess I wasn’t wrong after all :sweat_smile: this was coming from a mile away; glitch isn’t making any money.

This is heartbreaking. Glitch played a huge role in my programming journey back in middle and high schools, and now I’m entering my third year of studying computer science in university.

Met so many kind and brilliant people here (shoutout to @khalby786 @aboutdavid @javaarchive @EddiesTech) and staff (@jenn @tasha).

I send my best wishes to the team; Glitch will always hold a special place in my heart.

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The friendly atmosphere and the low barrier to entry here at Glitch made a beginning coder like me feel welcome and gave me the confidence to take on more and more ambitious projects … some of which kinda worked?! Anyhow, I learned a lot here.

I’m sad about the change but grateful to the team and community. Thanks for making and running this cool thing. I do look forward to seeing what Glitch evolves into. <3

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First off, I am quite sad about this. I do have this question: will you keep the community?
Second, I have this other question: why?


I feel like the evidence for this has been creeping up on us. However, I am still super sad. I don’t want to have to find another alternative. I do feel like free Project Hosting is not a sustainable business. I do want to say thank you. Unlike Replit’s community, this community 100% positive. I am going to have to work to download a bunch of projects.

I think the fact that we have had 39 comments in less than 24 hours shows you how many people liked this. There are people here who’s first time posting is here, or there first time in 5 years!

I agree with @davidcelis’s post and had the same thoughts.

Well, I gotta go start migrating projects. if the community DOES end, goodbye everyone. Y’all were amazing. I’ll be on GitHub, so you can reach out to me there. Truly amazing. I will miss y’all.

MilesWK

Man, this is soooo hard tbh with y’all.

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I will not be original in saying I am sad - heck, I’ve seen this coming, to be perfectly honest!
I do want to second the voices about the deadline being astoundingly short, though, and this is what really stressed me out.

You see, I’ve been teaching basic HTML&CSS to my Graphic Design students for a few years now. First went with JSFiddle, but since these folks are artists, they wanted to upload their own stuff - and using image hosting websites was at least uncomfortable.
Glitch is (was?) the perfect solution - they have an online editor, so I don’t have to worry about software installation/configuration, they have live preview and can upload their own assets. Again, all from online editor. This is what made Glitch truly stand out and none of the platforms mentioned have such a low barrier for entry. I know, I can learn them FTP or Git, but they are studying graphic design - I prefer to show them how to express themselves instead of spending valuable class time on solving CS-related problems (they rant a lot about this on certain other classes).

I am having them submit their final projects until 20th June, it is sheer luck that this is before the sunsetting date. Worst thing is since I need to keep copies of their assignments, I will now have to ask them to export various projects and probably send them via e-mail?

I know we’ve be using your generosity for long, I am more than happy to be doing so and been given a chance to - but the short timeframe makes it much harder for me than the decision itself.

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Hello everyone,

Just popping in to share that we have the first set of migration guides available on the Glitch Help Center. So if you were looking for advice on how to migrate your 11ty blog, static-site or full-stack site, please check those out. I’ll be sharing more updates as we add them, thank you!

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I completely understand this, but would it be possible for Glitch to keep some kind of system that lets us redirect our projects’ url to other services?

E.g. keeping the domain, just when we go to the domain we would get redirected to an url of the choice of the project author.

I’ll move most of my important stuff to Cloudflare pages, but I really don’t want to break existing iframes and links to some of my existing projects.

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so long and thanks for all the fish…
glitch.com was amaaazing and such a helpful tool for getting students up and running with hosting their rando learning/creative-coding projects over the years. i also used it for a few perma-projects that will now have to find alternative locations (sometimes it was just great to have ‘glitch’ in the url). while it doesn’t surprise me that all good things eventually come to an end, and the primary purpose of glitch.com has changed since it first launched – it’s of course a huge loss for the internet as a whole (just think of all the amazing projects that were featured in email newsletters and beyond) – and how all of that will become link rot. as feedback from the announcement, i wish you would give much longer than end of 2025 as the sunset for hosted projects (sounds like need to setup forwarding until then) and the plan to only maintain those URL forwards until 2026?? That means, 2026, tons of tools/websites/etc that have been shared/published/emailed/etc go poof without obvious ways to find that creativity. as mentioned by others above – i can only hope that a major archive.org scrape is planned prior to sunsetting, which of course will only work for the static html page content. in any case, very thankful for the community and offering that glitch.com offered and sorry to see it go.

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Interesting timing. I am preparing to launch a similar hosting platform inspired by Glitch but also quite different. Feel free to reach out if interested in what I’m cooking.

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@redhole yeah what is it?

Seconding this. Today I was thinking about saving all my favorite apps on the Wayback Machine, but I know it’ll only be a small fraction of the great stuff hosted on Glitch. I wasn’t a Cohost user, but I remember that part of their shutdown process involved collaborating with the Archive Team to make sure that all the public posts on the site were archived. Is something like that possible here?

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Thank you for all your provided. I used this in my k-12 and college classrooms and it was awesome to see all they created. I appreciate everyone that made this possible and wish you all the best on the next ventrue.

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I agree with many above:

1 Email notification shamefully inadequate (easily overlooked)
FROM should be Glitch not personal
SUBJECT should be GLITCH SHUTTING DOWN (all caps with some scary red emojis)

2: Six weeks is ridiculously sudden

3: I still love Glitch and thank you for many happy years of creative fun.

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Glitch is one of the only platforms I had to host my projects quickly with simple subscription model unlike other platforms with predatory contracts, hidden fees, and complicated setup process. Thank you for everything, I will miss Glitch.

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Technically, Glitch is a brand. I have seen several services like this being shut down like this, they usually keep their brand and become something else.

But yes, they should be more clear about changing the entire model.

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Well, if anything, I’m surprised Glitch lasted for so long. Still sad. When weighing in all the positives and the negatives, the positives far surpassed the negatives. So, overall, it was a huge win. But can’t have that in this world, I’m afraid.

The corporate speak is still there, so don’t pretend there is no “Our journey”. There absolutely is. But, can’t have honesty in this world, either.

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any plan for when this will be available? thanks!

Just got charged today for glitch pro :fireworks:

So what’s next after project hosting ended? Will Glitch really shut down, or will there be something else?

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why are you doing this.

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What happens to static sites? Will the functionality to make static sites be out to or is the hosting ending strictly for webapps?

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everything is getting shut down

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Glitch has been an incredible tool for my coding development. I don’t remember when I started, but I’ve loved Glitch forever.
Thank you for such an amazing way to share, build, and experience the web in a way that no other place has given me.
I remember the first (and only) CodeJam I participated in-- it was about bugs, and I spent multiple days straight coding it up for fun.
It’s a very sad time seeing this happen, and I’m really gonna miss it.
Glitch, thank you-- For everything.

Signing off,
Haizlbliek.

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Ironically, yesterday (May 24) I had my Glitch Pro annual renewal notice :grimacing:

Anyway… I just wanted to give you all a huge Thank You. Glitch has been great, the team has been amazing, I’m sad, but I appreciate you all.

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Just saw the email. Glitch was one of the starting steps of programming for myself. Thank you to everyone who contributed to Glitch and the community! :heart:

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Pls don’t give up :flexed_biceps:. Glitch is the easiest and fastest tool. Let’s continue the project maybe with OpenSource iniciative!! :star_struck:

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This was the worst decision Glitch Team could have made.

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I Aggreee

when all you projects in glitch its so hard new

after glitch shuts down maybe please open-source the code? :pleading_face:

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When should we expect redirects to other websites? (Also, a reminder to add a link in case the user doesn’t have Javascript enabled)

they would probably use a server-side redirect, not client-side

Are there any plans to offer an easy way to download all projects (with their git history). I have over a hundred projects AFAICT and downloading them all one at a time would be a pain.

There’s a script you can use for that, explained here: Option to download all projects - #12 by Pomax

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dear , can you please work on something like a few clicks migration process to any other webhosting provider , for the beginners out here :slight_smile:

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I am so glad you asked! I helped create our migration guides so they would be accessible to beginners. Take a look and if you have questions, come back to the forum for help!

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im not too sure if these were already answered somewhere else, i didnt really get it from the email sent out nor the discussion threads..

why exactly was the decision made to end project hosting?

if possible, could you let us know what lead to this decision? was it caused by a gradual decline in the services glitch offered (e.g. glitch falling behind its competitors in multiple aspects) or something more recent/sudden? was it made by the parent company?

to add to this, could you let us know some possible shortcomings that couldve needed to be addressed?

also, why is the term “project hosting” being used to describe whats happening? will glitch continue to exist in some form or another?

i think the community would appreciate more clarity as to what lead to this decision. i think keith’s blog post does a perfect job imo. but it does raise some additional questions and i do think its worth to have a civilized discussion where other voices and opinions can be heard!

(side note, anyone know a good place to get free domains? i cant use github student pack benefits :pensive:)

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I think Vercel has a form of this, I think if you want to spend <$20, you can buy your own domain, and use Vercel to have infinite subdomains. I purchased mileswk.com for around 14 dollars a year. If you want, I can create a tutorial on my blog from the buying process (I used domains.squarespace.com) to setting up subdomains.


Short answer: They won’t tell us:

(see this post)


Maybe because they aren’t removing the support forums. Now, that really doesn’t do much if the think they have the forums for are going away.

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IMO their response is just a little too vague (cus them being glitch, the company everyone loves for their transparency and straightforwardness with their user base).

Like you said, it wouldn’t make any sense to keep the support forum but discontinue the platform, which makes me believe that either it’s just a bit of annoying wording or there are plans to maintain some aspects of the platform (maybe code sharing??)

I think that, since the hosting part at least is being discontinued, there could be more transparency into what happened rather than saying “oh the codebase was too old to maintain” (which personally I doubt considering how long glitch had, and they just watched as people kept saying that other platforms provide more)

In addition, with them being acquired by fastly, I doubt it would’ve been out of reach with their resources. Perhaps glitch conflicts with some service that they’re planning to release?

I’m sorry that the response might not make sense (drafted it in like 8 minutes), I’ll try to edit it later to be more cohesive :+1:

(And about them domains, looking for a domain vendor that offers free top level domains (like the .me domains you can get with GitHub student pack))

i understand the innate urge to read into business decisions like product shutdowns to try to crack some code, but the fact of the matter is that it comes to money and if a company wants to spend more money on the thing or not. every product and worker at a company is (not to be crass, but honest) a line item on some cost spreadsheet and there are generally people that look at the spreadsheet every quarter to see where they can cut costs to report improvement on goals to their shareholders - this isn’t any secret thing or anything specific to fastly, it’s how companies (especially public) work. fastly leadership clearly decided that they didn’t want to spend more money on project hosting and in fact they’ll be saving money by shutting it down.

i am saying this to help shift the discussion to questions the glitch team can answer because otherwise it’s coming across here as if the team is not being transparent when i know that’s not the case. if you want to get fastly leadership’s attention, tag @fastly on twitter or fastly execs on linkedin (respectfully of course).

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a lot of “abuse” apparently, probably ddoses to websites on glitch. weird since i thought fastly had their own captcha like cloudflare?

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Wow. This is quite sad. I used Glitch as a student in high school and it introduced me to Node for which I am very grateful. On a more personal note, it got me through the COVID lockdowns, and I had a great time on the Glitch Community Forum, which taught me a lot. Very good memories of being within a fantastic group of Regulars here and supporting people of all abilities and ages, and getting that support back. I now work in IT at a global manufacturing company, and I would like to think my time on Glitch helped me get to where I am today.

I have the same question, I didn’t spot an answer. If the answer is actually known right now, is there any plan to shut down/phase out the community forum? There are a lot of posts regarding a variety of languages and frameworks that helps people on and off Glitch to this day (I ocassionaly get a notification telling me so many people have clicked a link I posted years ago). Just don’t want it to be all lost!

And finally great thanks to all who worked on Glitch and especially on the community forum, @jenn and @tasha come to mind, helping create and support a new generation of developers.

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They are keeping the community :slight_smile:

Well, not having a good captcha doesn’t feel like a great reason to shut down the entire thing.

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I just realized my anniversary of when I joined Glitch is coming up soon. Sad time for it.

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i think they probably use proof-of-work but that’s plenty enough to stop ddos attacks right?

I would assume so. Maybe they aren’t trying to stop bots from getting in, but humans that use Glitch to create DDOS attacks might be harder to control? I have switched over to codesandbox.io for product development.

Edit. It turns out that there is a live-preview extension for VS Code by Microsoft, so now VS Code with auto-save by delay makes the refresh very quick as it updates by change. I have set up a workspace where I can work on projects. Still using Vercel + Domain for pushing updates.

what was the point of the fastly aquisition if the team (im assuming) had known glitch’s gradual decline in product quality? it genuinely hasnt been that long since the aquisition??

is there not like any fastly representatives that could reach out to the community to explain their side of the story? its really murky

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they could cap the network bandwith per project/user tho?

you should try out cloudflare!

Hi @jjpppp2, I am a Fastly employee (and thus representative) and what we have said publicly in the announcement is all that we can share at this time. I apologize for the frustration, but I need to point out that asking the same questions in different ways is still going to get you all the same answer in this situation. It might not be a satisfying one, and for that I am truly sorry.

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To add to this, it’s been three years since Fastly acquired Glitch. And while I know that time has had no meaning ever since Covid, three years is a lot of time for things to develop and/or change and/org do any number of things, especially in a world where time is measured in quarters. It’s been over ten of those.

As satisfying as it might be to tell ourselves that whatever we come up with as to “why this happened” is really what happened, remember that you’re the easiest person to lie to, when you’re the one telling the lie: the worst thing you could do is believe your own story in this case.

Whatever reasons you might think of, I can pretty much guarantee that you’re off base. Maybe by a little, maybe by a lot, but you won’t be right enough to confidently claim that “X is why” =)

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remember from what? is this a common saying? who are you accusing of lying?

we are just contemplating the loss of something nice, while some people are saying they knew this was coming due to gossip, some people are saying they have long wanted to get rid of hosting, some people are saying the hosting wasn’t sustainable, some people are saying this didn’t have to be done.

the people we look to for truthful information are saying they can’t talk about it.


the head of glitch says he wants to shut down hosting. no word on it being necessary—but he has made it clear that he wants to and that fastly has not compelled him to do this.

(btw fastly, could you replace the head of glitch with someone who wants to keep hosting going? edit: not to say that this would be in fastly’s or glitch’s best interest, but still could you :folded_hands:)

folks on the glitch team who have talked on the community forum with us, I have no doubts about how much you love glitch as it is even with its rough places. I can trust you’ve already done what you can before this announcement went out to the public. thank you for thinking about us users.

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“he has made it clear that he wants to and that fastly has not compelled him to do this.”

this is a woefully incorrect interpretation of both the fastly org chart and reality, but understandable given that anil wrote the announcement.

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glad that someone’s standing up for Anil even though he’s been focusing the responsibility for the decision on himself

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Think about the signs for a second, the support got slower, featured project stopped getting updated, and they stopped Code Jams and stuff.

Which is weird. Maybe they don’t know the answer?

Is that just a big way of saying we will never know why you closed? Do you even know?

It’s a way to say that even if we have all the details, we cannot comment more than we already have because that’s how businesses work. We’re paid employees, and if our employer says “this is what you can say, and everything else needs approval”, then this is what we can say, and if we don’t get approval for more, we can’t say more.

As an open source maintainer for multiple decades, I personally think that’s bullshit, but as an employee of a publicly traded company, those instructions make a lot of sense, and the repercussions of violating those instructions are real. We can’t say more, or get into more details, etc. etc. because it’s not our call to make, there are bigger concerns by people who look at the total business impact of decisions like these. So unless and until we get permission to go into far more detail, this is all we can do.

Do I like that? No.

Does it help when folks keep going “why aren’t you saying it”? Equally no, you’d think folks would pick up on the fact that we’re not free to say what we want here, but I get wanting more information.

Does it help others if folks keep posting their own theories on what happened? No, although it also doesn’t really impact anything, so go for it. As long as you remember that just because someone else has the same theory as you, that doesn’t add more weight to your theory, and doesn’t make it more likely to be right. Opine away, but claiming that “it’s because” as if you’re stating facts rather than conjecture: probably worth not doing.

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thank you glitch for everything

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This is sad :slightly_frowning_face:. Glitch was the best platform for me to host my website…

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Im making a new static editor for now on gravix.cloud, desperate to keep some memories of glitch alive somehow ;<

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